tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post113339375213000715..comments2023-11-02T02:15:53.002-07:00Comments on Job's Tale: Learning to DanceCurious Servanthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11564580536911743558noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-51934045860409342832007-01-31T03:36:00.000-08:002007-01-31T03:36:00.000-08:00Wonderful and informative web site. I used informa...Wonderful and informative web site. 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However, we must not separate the Lord's hand from using the laws of physics. That is, God does not step back and let nature take its course. Rather, the laws of physics we see at work are the hand of God. <BR/><BR/>26 Behold, God is great, and we know him not;<BR/> the number of his years is unsearchable. <BR/>27 For he draws up the drops of water;<BR/> they distill his mist in rain, <BR/>28 which the skies pour down<BR/> and drop on mankind abundantly. <BR/>29 Can anyone understand the spreading of the<BR/> clouds,<BR/> the thunderings of his pavilion? <BR/>30 Behold, he scatters his lightning about him<BR/> and covers the roots of the sea. <BR/>31 For by these he judges peoples;<BR/> he gives food in abundance. <BR/>32 He covers his hands with the lightning<BR/> and commands it to strike the mark. <BR/>33 Its crashing declares his presence;*<BR/> the cattle also declare that he rises. <BR/><BR/>The tender rain that waters the earth and the torrents that cause mudslides come from the omnipotent hand of God. As humans we need to try and wrap our brain around the fact that God does all these things. Not only can God perform natural disasters, but he does cause them (Jonah 1.4,12). Nature is the manifestation of God's majesty, not the result of a Designer who watches things unravel.<BR/><BR/>The joy comes in the fact that God is like a tender hen that gathers her chicks under her wing while the lightning and tornadoes come. May we refuge in him when understanding is not ours.Matthew Wiremanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802001512407344528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133630595614595422005-12-03T09:23:00.000-08:002005-12-03T09:23:00.000-08:00Wow!!! All I can say is Wow... the faith in those...Wow!!! All I can say is Wow... the faith in those words..wow.What's my Missionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12027646416947364679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133564900512760042005-12-02T15:08:00.000-08:002005-12-02T15:08:00.000-08:00While I was writing the above comment several folk...While I was writing the above comment several folks posted comments of their own.<BR/><BR/>Thank you folks! I think I shall get that book.<BR/><BR/>Lorna, I want to especially thank you for your most kind comments (and the link to this blog was sweet also).<BR/><BR/>Today is our church's 24 hour of prayer day (1st Friday of every month). I am conducting an experiment this evening mixing artistic expression (I love to paint and draw and sculpt) with prayer for two hours.<BR/><BR/>God bless all of you (even more than He already does).Curious Servanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11564580536911743558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133564099042298972005-12-02T14:54:00.000-08:002005-12-02T14:54:00.000-08:00I'm probably wrong (I usually am) and I'm probably...I'm probably wrong (I usually am) and I'm probably going to get corrected by a lot of folks, but here goes...<BR/><BR/>As for Satan vs. God, I do believe that there is an opposing force. however, to call them equal is absurd. Satan is a creation of the Lord. It is absurd to think that there is any sort of real competition.<BR/><BR/>I do have some thoughts about Satan, his views, his role, and why he might think he stands a chance, but now isn't the time to discuss it.<BR/><BR/>So what about natural disasters? I believe that in general the world runs along on the laws of physics that the Lord created. If you build a house on a cliff side, do not be surprised if time and tide take it away. That is also true on larger scales. <BR/><BR/>But... BUT... within those disaster He does work some amazing miracles. There are some awe-some stories coming out of the hurricane and tsunami events.<BR/><BR/>And of course, the Lord CAN cause natural disasters. It is His creation, His universe, He holds all things together, and can do ANYTHING.<BR/><BR/>I love this sort of discussion.Curious Servanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11564580536911743558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133563405216540182005-12-02T14:43:00.000-08:002005-12-02T14:43:00.000-08:00mmmthis might be confirmation but I hadn't read al...mmm<BR/><BR/>this might be confirmation but I hadn't read all the comments here, and just did and Gayla - dear friend and sister in Christ- recommends the same book.<BR/><BR/>:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133563313702957232005-12-02T14:41:00.000-08:002005-12-02T14:41:00.000-08:00CSI came across this book review and want you to c...CS<BR/>I came across this book review and want you to check it out too<BR/><BR/>http://journalingthroughthevalley.blogspot.com/2005/11/book-review-brokenness-how-god-redeems.html<BR/><BR/>God meant it for Good - whatever it was. And WE are following the right shepherd, and we know Him because we recognise His voice. And because he is close to us he's knows us by feel too.<BR/><BR/>be blessed as you journey with HimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133562290231260892005-12-02T14:24:00.000-08:002005-12-02T14:24:00.000-08:00Thought I would at least add the Greek meaning for...Thought I would at least add the Greek meaning for 'calamity' (which is the word 'evil' in the King James)<BR/><BR/>ra‛ râ‛âh<BR/>rah, raw-aw'<BR/>From H7489; bad or (as noun) evil (naturally or morally). This includes the second (feminine) form; as adjective or noun: - adversity, affliction, bad, calamity, + displease (-ure), distress, evil ([-favouredness], man, thing), + exceedingly, X great, grief (-vous), harm, heavy, hurt (-ful), ill (favoured), + mark, mischief, (-vous), misery, naught (-ty), noisome, + not please, sad (-ly), sore, sorrow, trouble, vex, wicked (-ly, -ness, one), worse (-st) wretchedness, wrong. [Including feminine ra’ah; as adjective or noun.]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133562093322099532005-12-02T14:21:00.000-08:002005-12-02T14:21:00.000-08:00Question: In stating that you believe God is in c...Question: In stating that you believe God is in control, but that there's an evil force acting against Him, do you then believe that the evil force is equal to God in power? That they're equal forces, but that one is good and one is evil and that they're 'duking' it out, so to speak?<BR/><BR/>Even in Job, satan could do NOTHING apart from what God said he could do. So in reality, God not only allows and is in control, but He orchestrates. <BR/><BR/>Job even said, "For calamity from God is a terror to me, And because of His majesty I can do nothing. (31:23)<BR/><BR/>Another example: The tsunami or the hurricanes. Do you believe God caused those things, as well as everything like them? Or, do you believe those things simply occur outside of His divine plan/will and that He then has to 'decide' whether or not to allow them?<BR/><BR/>Isaiah 45:7<BR/>I am the LORD, and there is no other, The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these. <BR/><BR/>For me, it is a great comfort to know that ALL things are created/caused/allowed - whatever - by God Himself. It lets me rest assured in the fact that, as the sovereign, there is no greater force in the universe who is capable of ursurping His power.<BR/><BR/>That's not to say that I <I>understand</I> 'why' He does what He does. These things may <I>appear</I> horrendous to me and my finite way of thinking. But it's different with God. <BR/><BR/>Fascinating discussion!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133552971892237762005-12-02T11:49:00.000-08:002005-12-02T11:49:00.000-08:00Curious Servant ~Thank you for your comments on my...Curious Servant ~<BR/><BR/>Thank you for your comments on my blog. I enjoyed reading over this post and wanted to make a brief comment. The world is subjected to futility, not willingly, but by his (that is, God) in HOPE. God has subjected the entire creation to futility. The picture is further filled out by the picture of a woman in labor. Verse 22 and following: <BR/><BR/>22 For we know that sthe whole creation thas been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. 23 And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have uthe firstfruits of the Spirit, vgroan inwardly as wwe wait eagerly for adoption as sons, xthe redemption of our bodies. 24 For yin this hope we were saved. Now zhope that is seen is not hope. For who hopes for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we await for it with patience. <BR/><BR/>As Luther said that God has Satan on a leash, so it is for every believer. God has the lions of destruction on a leash, like in The Pilgrim's Progress. So we can take heart that not only does God know, but he has purpose in suffering. He is taken by surprise as some have suggested. He is sovereign and the picture is much larger than our finite site allows us. <BR/><BR/>Thank you for reminding us to look to the purpose in the suffering rather than shaking a wicked fist at God and blaming him rather than praising him.Matthew Wiremanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802001512407344528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133541666800351032005-12-02T08:41:00.000-08:002005-12-02T08:41:00.000-08:00Curious, I just wanted to pass this along to you. ...Curious, I just wanted to pass this along to you. I'm reading a book right now called <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0976377004/emergentpdx-20/104-6623116-7774360" REL="nofollow">Brokenness</A>, by Lon Solomon<BR/><BR/>It's been fascinating to read. The author is a saved Jew, and he's a pastor. He and his wife have a handicapped daughter. The book's premise is based on the book of Job. It's about how God uses us as He breaks us. Anyway, I highly recommend it! :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133535860707778332005-12-02T07:04:00.000-08:002005-12-02T07:04:00.000-08:00hey CS and mmm, i'd love to dance with you too!hey CS and mmm, i'd love to dance with you too!Kitty Chenghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04596390144919647967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133535118728220742005-12-02T06:51:00.000-08:002005-12-02T06:51:00.000-08:00Awwww. Can I dance with you on the athletic field?...Awwww. Can I dance with you on the athletic field? I don't care if people watch ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133516716772633852005-12-02T01:45:00.000-08:002005-12-02T01:45:00.000-08:00What a poignant and beautiful post. I have been f...What a poignant and beautiful post. I have been feeling pretty "knocked flat" myself lately, and it is, as you describe, strangely empowering. My strength and my humility have grown out of adversity.ellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17794185215651290329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133500137441299972005-12-01T21:08:00.000-08:002005-12-01T21:08:00.000-08:00thank you for your post. it is encouraging to rea...thank you for your post. it is encouraging to read your stuff. i love romans 8:28<BR/><BR/>God is good.paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02398433454024495993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133495944739976552005-12-01T19:59:00.000-08:002005-12-01T19:59:00.000-08:00CS I know that only eyes of faith can see His bles...CS I know that only eyes of faith can see His blessings in the face of apparent tragedy and I thank God for yours.<BR/><BR/>The topic for debate here seems prevalent on many sites these days. I will offer one quote from <A HREF="http://notmywill.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">Dorsey</A> who said, “God is in control, but not controlling”. The implication being We are allowed choices but we are given limits too.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for being such a blessingKchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02451413357867941720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133494425656211412005-12-01T19:33:00.000-08:002005-12-01T19:33:00.000-08:00God is using you for His glory.God is using you for His glory.Seekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06417070900691549684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133493922325656832005-12-01T19:25:00.000-08:002005-12-01T19:25:00.000-08:00no matter how bad our situation is, it'll be bette...no matter how bad our situation is, it'll be better because God can make something good out of it. <BR/><BR/>i agree with what lorna said.<BR/><BR/>blessings to you and happy weekend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133476993553828252005-12-01T14:43:00.000-08:002005-12-01T14:43:00.000-08:00raw honesty here and so much courage. God is good ...raw honesty here and so much courage. God is good because He walks with you andleads you by the hand :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133462472963230972005-12-01T10:41:00.000-08:002005-12-01T10:41:00.000-08:00love what you've posted here. chock full of so man...love what you've posted here. chock full of so many truths. <BR/><BR/>you are a very wise man, for many reasons, but to continually acknkowledge all that God is doing in the midst of your suffering is truly amazing.. and a blessing to witness.. <BR/><BR/>peace, jeffso i gohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08542069277228284973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133459993989623862005-12-01T09:59:00.000-08:002005-12-01T09:59:00.000-08:00'I have discovered that the smaller I am, the stro...'I have discovered that the smaller I am, the stronger I am'<BR/><BR/>In a sentence.....so much in that sentence....Gigihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05805941956462456865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133446293434855522005-12-01T06:11:00.000-08:002005-12-01T06:11:00.000-08:00Again, I am touched to come here and read a messag...Again, I am touched to come here and read a message that could be aimed directly at me.<BR/><BR/>"There have been times when life has knocked me flat. I mean really knocked me flat". Oh how I understand that statement. I just need to find your way of coping with life. And reading you is beginning to help I hope.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16203537512627107895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133445540053612462005-12-01T05:59:00.000-08:002005-12-01T05:59:00.000-08:00I am grateful so much good came out of it. I join ...I am grateful so much good came out of it. I join you in praise!<BR/><BR/>God's Grace.Corryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05005702558743767245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12075278.post-1133424345150912522005-12-01T00:05:00.000-08:002005-12-01T00:05:00.000-08:00No God doesn't cause all things, but is able to wo...No God doesn't cause all things, but is able to work his good (Christlikeness) out of anything that happens in those who love him. I think that's the best way to understand Rom 8.28. Roms 8.28 and theodicy (search theodicy on my blog) stuff has consumed a great deal of my last few years and graduate study. You sound like you would have alot in common with Greg Boyd's book: "Is God to blame." Are you familar with him? I think that the book of Job ended before it ended happy . . . I think a latter editor came along and made it have a "nicer" ending. Anyway check out Greg Boyd . . . he sounds like how you're thinking. He's into Spiritual warfare and finding a balance between God's control and human free will. prayers to you and yours.dwghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14998160874633141286noreply@blogger.com